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World Hello Day
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Ross Clark
2024-11-21 09:44:29 UTC
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Hello. Goodbye.
Passing over the intrductory paragraph,
Crystal says a few things about the word "hello".
Surprisingly late in appearance -- 19th century.
The first part links back to things like "ha!" "ho!" and "hi!" as
vocatives and greetings right from OE.
There may also be a connection with hal/hail greetings meaning "good
health!.
In a triumph of English spelling, the word has been spelled with all
five of the vowels available: hallo, hello, hillo, hollo, hullo.
Stefan Ram
2024-11-21 13:39:02 UTC
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Post by Ross Clark
In a triumph of English spelling, the word has been spelled with all
five of the vowels available: hallo, hello, hillo, hollo, hullo.
According to Kluge, the interjection "Hallo," now part of
standard German vocabulary, originated in the 15th century.

It was initially the imperative form of the Old High German
words "halōn" or "holōn" (similar to modern German "holen,"
meaning "to fetch"). Kluge suggests it was essentially a call
to the ferryman, meaning "Fetch (me) over!" with an elongated
final syllable (pluti), which is why it retains its full form.
Stefan Ram
2024-11-21 14:36:07 UTC
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World Hello Day
Did you all know that "Hello world!" is an anastrophe of
"world hello"? - A "hello world[ program]" is the first
program a programmer writes.
HenHanna
2024-11-21 19:54:33 UTC
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Post by Stefan Ram
World Hello Day
Did you all know that "Hello world!" is an anastrophe of
"world hello"? - A "hello world[ program]" is the first
program a programmer writes.
------------ (i dn't get it) Oh, you're just saying they are reverse of
each other.


World Hello Day is a secular holiday observed annually on November 21,
to express that conflicts should be resolved through communication
rather than the use of force. Participants verbally greet ten people or
more on that day as an expression of the importance of personal
communication in preserving peace. The annual global event began to be
celebrated in 1973 as a response to the Yom Kippur War.
HenHanna
2024-11-22 01:10:28 UTC
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Post by Ross Clark
Hello. Goodbye.
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Post by Ross Clark
Passing over the intrductory paragraph,
Crystal says a few things about the word "hello".
Surprisingly late in appearance -- 19th century.
The first part links back to things like "ha!" "ho!" and "hi!" as
vocatives and greetings right from OE.
There may also be a connection with hal/hail greetings meaning "good
health!.
In a triumph of English spelling, the word has been spelled with all
five of the vowels available: hallo, hello, hillo, hollo, hullo.
(is this last part from you or from Crystal?)


Hillo was quite common in the 1800's.

I'm less sure about Hollo.


1609, “Everie Woman In Her Humor”, in A Collection Of Old English Plays,
Vol. IV.‎[1]:
And then to Apollo hollo, trees, hollo.


1922, Jacob Grimm, Wilhelm Grimm, Grimm's Fairy Stories‎[2]:
Presently up came the clerk; and when he saw his master, the parson,
running after the three girls, he was greatly surprised, and said,
"Hollo! hollo! your reverence! whither so fast


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(UK, dated) hello (expressing puzzlement or discovery)
1897, Richard Marsh, The Beetle:
‘Hollo!’ he cried. ‘The blind’s down!’ I had noticed, when we were
outside, that the blind was down at the front room window.


in the S.H. stories, 90% pr 95% of the time,
This (expressing puzzlement or discovery) is
what's meant by
Halloa, or Hullo.


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the German word "hell" (meaning "light" or "bright") and the English
word "pale" are unrelated in terms of etymology.

Etymology:

adj "hell": The German word comes from the Old High German
"hella," which is linked to the Proto-Germanic *haljō, meaning "bright"
or "light."

"Pale": The English word derives from Old French "pale," which
comes from Latin "pallidus," meaning "pale" or "faded." This Latin root
is also connected to the idea of lacking color or brightness.

_________________________ related to German hell


Related Words: This root is related to words in other Germanic
languages, such as:

Dutch "helder" (clear, bright)

English "hale" (to be healthy or whole, but not directly related to
brightness) ??????????????????

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