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"revenue" comes from the Latin "revenire"
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HenHanna
2024-12-22 19:03:11 UTC
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this etym. doesn't make sense in that...

Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.


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The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").


In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.

By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.



Summary:

Latin: "revenire" (to come back)

Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)

English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)

This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
Ed Cryer
2024-12-22 19:59:01 UTC
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this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...
  Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.
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The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").
In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.
By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.
Latin: "revenire" (to come back)
Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)
English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)
This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
The "re" doesn't apply.
Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.

Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is
causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern economics.

Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
expenditure
Ed Cryer
2024-12-22 20:33:10 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...
   Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.
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The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").
In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.
By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.
Latin: "revenire" (to come back)
Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)
English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)
This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
The "re" doesn't apply.
Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.
Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is
causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern economics.
Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
expenditure. They depend on other factors.
Ed
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Peter Moylan
2024-12-23 11:19:13 UTC
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I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
like an idiot, he is an idiot.
Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
2024-12-23 11:39:29 UTC
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Post by Peter Moylan
I think you're newish here. We've been subjected to the hen's
clucking for years, that has left no doubt that he doesn't just sound
like an idiot, he is an idiot.
Unusually, I'm cross-posting here, because I suspect that your response
didn't reach the latest victim of HenHanna.
Ah, thanks, I didn't notice that. In "I think you're newish here,"
"here" meant alt.usage.english
--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.
HenHanna
2024-12-22 20:33:51 UTC
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Post by Ed Cryer
this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...
  Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.
_______________
The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").
In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.
By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.
Latin: "revenire" (to come back)
Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)
English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)
This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
The "re" doesn't apply.
Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.
Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is
causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern economics.
Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
expenditure. They depend on other factors.
Ed
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i'm not making much of a claim... just an observation that...

in Jp and Chinese counterparts, there's no Element of coming BACK

(just Income)

Cantonese, Mandarin: 收入 (zh) (shōurù)

Japanese: 収入 (ja) (しゅうにゅう, shūnyū), 収益 (ja) (しゅうえき, shūeki)
Ed Cryer
2024-12-22 21:48:57 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
Post by Ed Cryer
this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...
   Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.
_______________
The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").
In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.
By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.
Latin: "revenire" (to come back)
Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)
English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)
This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
The "re" doesn't apply.
Revenue is merely the incoming money to a company or government.
If you want it to imply more, then that's your opinion.
Try and justify your claim. The best I can make of it is that income is
causally related to expenditure. Which is refuted daily by modern economics.
Profits in a capitalist economy are not causally connected with
expenditure. They depend on other factors.
Ed
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i'm not making much of a claim...  just an observation that...
in Jp and Chinese counterparts, there's no Element of coming BACK
          (just Income)
Cantonese, Mandarin: 收入 (zh) (shōurù)
Japanese: 収入 (ja) (しゅうにゅう, shūnyū), 収益 (ja) (しゅうえき, shūeki)
Well you should have given us some warning.
Now you sound like an idiot defending a
guido wugi
2024-12-24 23:02:23 UTC
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this etym.  doesn't make sense in that...
  Descendants of Picasso (?) can make no investment and just get
Revenues.
_______________
The word "revenue" has its origins in the Latin term "revenire," which
means "to come back" or "to return." This Latin word is formed from the
prefix "re-" (meaning "back" or "again") and "venire" (meaning "to
come").
In Middle French, the term evolved to "revenu," which referred to income
or profits returning to a person or entity.
By the late 14th century, it was adopted into English as "revenue,"
primarily referring to the income generated by a government or a
business.
Latin: "revenire" (to come back)
Middle French: "revenu" (income or profits)
English: "revenue" (income, especially for governments or businesses)
This evolution reflects the notion of income returning to its source.
The image is that of money *coming [in] back*, after it has *gone out*
(as expenditure/investment). Not necessarily with any direct/causal
relation between both "flows", apart from a chronological one.
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guido wugi
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