Discussion:
European Day of Languages (26 September)
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Ross Clark
2024-09-26 10:57:40 UTC
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Zzzzz... Uh! sorry. More than usual amount of well-meaning guff today
from Crystal.

Well, look here for more:

https://edl.ecml.at/

Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?
Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them, in the
appropriate script?
Christian Weisgerber
2024-09-26 13:55:44 UTC
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Post by Ross Clark
https://edl.ecml.at/
Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?
Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.

ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian
language? *sigh*

Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
covers both written standards?

No Faroese (FO). Maybe the Faroe Islands don't fall under the
umbrella of the Council of Europe.
Post by Ross Clark
Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them,
Nope.
Post by Ross Clark
in the appropriate script?
Nope, I've never had any real contact with the Georgian and Armenian
alphabets.
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Christian "naddy" Weisgerber ***@mips.inka.de
Ruud Harmsen
2024-09-27 06:07:14 UTC
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Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:55:44 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ross Clark
https://edl.ecml.at/
Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?
Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.
ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian
language? *sigh*
Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
(countries)? ME is montenegro, the Montenegrin language (which of
course is simply Serbian) is cnr in ISO 639-2 and 3.
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
covers both written standards?
Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.
Post by Christian Weisgerber
No Faroese (FO). Maybe the Faroe Islands don't fall under the
umbrella of the Council of Europe.
ISO 639 fo or fao.

So it seems this page is either not genuine and official, or the
organisation invented its own codes.

For Danish and Swedish they do use language codes (da and sv), not
country codes (DK and SE).
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ross Clark
Good. Now, can you write the self-designations of all of them,
Nope.
Post by Ross Clark
in the appropriate script?
Nope, I've never had any real contact with the Georgian and Armenian
alphabets.
Christian Weisgerber
2024-09-27 17:41:12 UTC
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Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ross Clark
https://edl.ecml.at/
Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
(countries)?
Apart from "ME" they are consistently using the language code.
Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
covers both written standards?
Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.
Yes, but there is also "no" for Norwegian as a cover term for both.
That might be a recent addition. I think I've seen I18N message
catalogs switch from "nb" to "no" over the last few years.
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Christian "naddy" Weisgerber ***@mips.inka.de
Ruud Harmsen
2024-09-28 08:33:14 UTC
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Fri, 27 Sep 2024 17:41:12 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ross Clark
https://edl.ecml.at/
Perhaps they are mixing up ISO 639 (languages) and ISO 3166
(countries)?
Apart from "ME" they are consistently using the language code.
Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Why does that list have Nynorsk instead of Norwegian (NO), which
covers both written standards?
Yes, strange. The country code for Norway is NO, the languages are nn
or nno for Nynorsk, and nb of nob for Bokmål.
Yes, but there is also "no" for Norwegian as a cover term for both.
That might be a recent addition. I think I've seen I18N message
catalogs switch from "nb" to "no" over the last few years.
I see, a macrolanguage. Previously I overlooked that one in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639_language_codes
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Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com
Ruud Harmsen
2024-09-27 06:12:35 UTC
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Thu, 26 Sep 2024 13:55:44 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
Post by Christian Weisgerber
Post by Ross Clark
https://edl.ecml.at/
Can you identify all 43 languages from their two-letter abbreviations?
Uhmm... I should be able to... but no.
ME? "Crnogorski jezik", that must be Montenegrin. Wikipedia doesn't
list that language code, though. Also, another separate Serbocroatian
language? *sigh*
If you hover the link ME, you see a URL that has sr-Latn-ME, which
means Serbian in Latin script in Montenegro.
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