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(LaTeX) -- blurb introduces a Quotation -- (Page Break)
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HenHanna
2024-07-19 22:39:35 UTC
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In a book, if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and the next page is just the RHS (Right-Hand-Side), then
the badness is minimal (?)

but if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and i have to flip the Page to see the quotation,
it's pretty bad.
------ Is this avoided in all the printed books?


Does LaTeX provide an easy , standard way to avoid this?


(i know that LaTeX avoids putting Section, Subsection...
header at the end of a page.... that'd look SO bad!)


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Wow! Back then (in Old England), did ordinary folks use the verb
[translate] in the following way? Did educated folks use the
verb [translate] consistently in this way? Here's the actual
passage from KJV:
By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death;
and was not found, because God had translated him: for
before his translation he had this testimony, that he
pleased God.

------- here it means (seems to mean) the same thing as [Relocate]

i'd love to see a usage example, e.g. from F.Bacon or Shak


(Thanks (Mr.UD) for the response--- i'm slowing digesting it)
Ruud Harmsen
2024-07-20 05:17:08 UTC
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Post by HenHanna
In a book, if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and the next page is just the RHS (Right-Hand-Side), then
the badness is minimal (?)
but if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and i have to flip the Page to see the quotation,
it's pretty bad.
------ Is this avoided in all the printed books?
There's a term for that, something with widows or orphans? Yeah:
https://www.herronprinting.com/resources/the-ideas-collection/all-alone-and-misunderstood-widows-orphans-runts-and-rivers/

(Includes the crazy modern "light grey on white" no contrast bad
readability fashion.)
Post by HenHanna
Does LaTeX provide an easy , standard way to avoid this?
Dunno, I don't do printed pages, only wegpages.
Ruud Harmsen
2024-07-20 05:38:28 UTC
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Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by HenHanna
In a book, if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and the next page is just the RHS (Right-Hand-Side), then
the badness is minimal (?)
but if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and i have to flip the Page to see the quotation,
it's pretty bad.
------ Is this avoided in all the printed books?
https://www.herronprinting.com/resources/the-ideas-collection/all-alone-and-misunderstood-widows-orphans-runts-and-rivers/
English "runt" by the way is interesting where the etymology is
concerned. Perhaps from Dutch rund = cow, which can also mean "stupid
person".

Slogan:
Je bent een rund als je met vuurwerk stunt.
Post by Ruud Harmsen
(Includes the crazy modern "light grey on white" no contrast bad
readability fashion.)
Post by HenHanna
Does LaTeX provide an easy , standard way to avoid this?
Dunno, I don't do printed pages, only wegpages.
Ruud Harmsen
2024-07-20 05:38:28 UTC
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Post by Ruud Harmsen
Post by HenHanna
In a book, if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and the next page is just the RHS (Right-Hand-Side), then
the badness is minimal (?)
but if the [Here's the passage:] is at the end of the
page, and i have to flip the Page to see the quotation,
it's pretty bad.
------ Is this avoided in all the printed books?
https://www.herronprinting.com/resources/the-ideas-collection/all-alone-and-misunderstood-widows-orphans-runts-and-rivers/
English "runt" by the way is interesting where the etymology is
concerned. Perhaps from Dutch rund = cow, which can also mean "stupid
person".

Slogan:
Je bent een rund als je met vuurwerk stunt.
Post by Ruud Harmsen
(Includes the crazy modern "light grey on white" no contrast bad
readability fashion.)
Post by HenHanna
Does LaTeX provide an easy , standard way to avoid this?
Dunno, I don't do printed pages, only wegpages.
HenHanna
2024-07-24 01:42:18 UTC
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      In a book, if the [Here's the passage:]  is at the end of the
page, and the next page is just the RHS (Right-Hand-Side), then
the badness is minimal (?)
       but if the [Here's the passage:]  is at the end of the
page, and i have to flip the Page to see the quotation,
it's pretty bad.
                ------ Is this avoided in all the printed books?
Does  LaTeX   provide an easy , standard way to avoid this?
          (i know that  LaTeX  avoids putting  Section, Subsection...
              header  at the end of a page.... that'd look SO bad!)
__________________________
Wow!    Back then (in Old England), did ordinary folks use the verb
[translate] in the following way?         Did educated folks use the
verb [translate] consistently in this way?   Here's the actual
            By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death;
            and was not found, because God had translated him: for
            before his translation he had this testimony, that he
            pleased God.
------- here it means (seems to mean) the same thing as [Relocate]
            i'd love to see a usage example, e.g. from F.Bacon or Shak
(Thanks (Mr.UD) for the response--- i'm slowing digesting it)
thanks for the tip... i 'll check the book
[The Elements of Typographical Style]

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