Somewhere came from Somewheres ? ---- unawares, amongst, betwixt

[Ross Clark]

    > Does the dropping of the final S go back to Greek or Hebrew?

Crossposted to sci.lang, where people might know the answer.
              Is there a natural tendency for languages to lose final
syllables or final consonants?  <<<
-----------  Why is this thread  named   [Somewheres]  ?
          is there a suggestion that ...
               Somewhere  came from Somewheres ? --- (Dropped S)
                                      i think Not !
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/somewheres
i thnk the  -s in  Somewheres    is  old, and the same as in
Forwards
Backwards
Outwards
Inwards
Upwards
Downwards
Homewards
Sideways
Besides ?
Unawares ?
‎forward + ‎-s → ‎forwards
‎downward + ‎-s → ‎downwards
‎alway + ‎-s → ‎always
‎sometime + ‎-s → ‎sometimes
‎betime + ‎-s → ‎betimes
‎while + ‎-s → ‎whiles
‎betide + ‎-s → ‎betides
‎toward + ‎-s → ‎towards
‎beside + ‎-s → ‎besides
‎evening + ‎-s → ‎evenings
‎unaware + ‎-s → ‎unawares
‎among + ‎-st → ‎amongst
‎mid + ‎-st → ‎midst
‎while + ‎-st → ‎whilst
betwixt
against
alongst
amongst
beknownst
midst
unbeknownst
whilst
whomst

You (whoever "you" are) are right.
I pointed this out a couple of days ago, referring to what I call
"floating adverbial -s". You may have missed it as a result of your
incessant cross-posting. (Thunderbird won't let me cross-post.)
All the words above are (I think) examples of it. (Sometimes with extra -t.)

IIRC, Peter Moylan originally asked about the form "besides", which was
new to him. Some time later, he mentioned that in choral singing, the
sound of [s] is disliked, and singers are instructed to mute or even
suppress it. This led to general discussion of loss or weakening of [s]
and other sounds in languages. But I don't think anyone actually claimed
that "somewheres" became "somewhere" in this way. If they did, they were
wrong.

[Jeff Barnett]

<SNIP>

Post by Ross Clark
You (whoever "you" are) are right.
I pointed this out a couple of days ago, referring to what I call
"floating adverbial -s". You may have missed it as a result of your
incessant cross-posting. (Thunderbird won't let me cross-post.)
All the words above are (I think) examples of it. (Sometimes with extra -t.)

TB will allow you to cross-post -- see header of this post created with
TB. I'll leave it to you to look up how; I don't want to make it too
easy for idiots who would abuse that capability.

<SNIP>

[Ross Clark]

Post by Jeff Barnett
<SNIP>

Post by Ross Clark
You (whoever "you" are) are right.
I pointed this out a couple of days ago, referring to what I call
"floating adverbial -s". You may have missed it as a result of your
incessant cross-posting. (Thunderbird won't let me cross-post.)
All the words above are (I think) examples of it. (Sometimes with extra -t.)

TB will allow you to cross-post -- see header of this post created with
TB. I'll leave it to you to look up how; I don't want to make it too
easy for idiots who would abuse that capability.
<SNIP>

Actually I have no wish to. I used to crosspost sometimes, but now I
find the process mostly annoying and confusing -- particularly as
practised by HH (who never attributes properly) and by various political
idiots who still intrude onto a.u.e. So when TB tells me I can't post
something I've written because it's going to two or more newsgroups, I
know how to remove all but the one I want.

[HenHanna]

Post by Ross Clark

 >>>    > Does the dropping of the final S go back to Greek or Hebrew?
Crossposted to sci.lang, where people might know the answer.
               Is there a natural tendency for languages to lose final
syllables or final consonants?  <<<
-----------  Why is this thread  named   [Somewheres]  ?
           is there a suggestion that ...
                Somewhere  came from Somewheres ? --- (Dropped S)
                                       i think Not !
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/somewheres
i thnk the  -s in  Somewheres    is  old, and the same as in
Forwards
Backwards
Outwards
Inwards
Upwards
Downwards
Homewards
Sideways
Besides ?
Unawares ?
‎forward + ‎-s → ‎forwards
‎downward + ‎-s → ‎downwards
‎alway + ‎-s → ‎always
‎sometime + ‎-s → ‎sometimes
‎betime + ‎-s → ‎betimes
‎while + ‎-s → ‎whiles
‎betide + ‎-s → ‎betides
‎toward + ‎-s → ‎towards
‎beside + ‎-s → ‎besides
‎evening + ‎-s → ‎evenings
‎unaware + ‎-s → ‎unawares
‎among + ‎-st → ‎amongst
‎mid + ‎-st → ‎midst
‎while + ‎-st → ‎whilst
betwixt
against
alongst
amongst
beknownst
midst
unbeknownst
whilst
whomst

You (whoever "you" are) are right.
I pointed this out a couple of days ago, referring to what I call
"floating adverbial -s". You may have missed it as a result of your
incessant cross-posting. (Thunderbird won't let me cross-post.)
All the words above are (I think) examples of it. (Sometimes with extra -t.)
IIRC, Peter Moylan originally asked about the form "besides", which was
new to him. Some time later, he mentioned that in choral singing, the
sound of [s] is disliked, and singers are instructed to mute or even
suppress it. This led to general discussion of loss or weakening of [s]
and other sounds in languages. But I don't think anyone actually claimed
that "somewheres" became "somewhere" in this way. If they did, they were
wrong.

in English choruses, the final S is never dropped.
----------- all S's are emphasized, enunciated... iirc.


_____________________

whenabouts?
thenabouts?

nearabouts
roundabouts

hereabouts
thereabouts
whereabouts --- in Each, -S is adverbial



i was trying to remember... there was a thread about
the adverbial -S suffix in AUE and i think i found it.


_______________________________Subj: Whereabouts


***@ihug.co.nz ------- Aug 24, 2011 ---- to AUE

On Aug 24, "Peter Duncanson (BrE)" <***@peterduncanson.net> wrote:
.........


The strange thing is that the -s isn't historically a plural at all.
It's the "adverbial -s", originally from an OE genitive singular. Yet
"whereabouts" is certainly treated as plural for purposes of
agreement, and I think may even be felt by some speakers as
semantically plural, something like "the particulars of his location",
or maybe as suggesting that he moves around (has more than one location)?